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David Edward (Hogg) Hogue I & Louisa Hardman family history
David Edward Hogg was born in Melanchthon, Grey County (now Dufferin County), Ontario on 26 January 1975 on the James Hogg family farm. His parents were James Hogg (b; 14 April 1833) and Mary Jane Blair-Armstrong (b; 10 May 1833) James was a tenant farmer renting 50 acres with 6 acres under cultivation. The James Hogg family was Methodist when Dave was born. Mary Jane Blair's father died young and Mary Jane's mother married an Armstrong. The family farm in Melanchthon, Ontario is where all of James Hogg's children were born except Alice Maude (Maude Alice?). David's grandfather Samuel Hogg died in November of 1875
In 1876 after the death of his father, James Hogg homesteaded on property in Purple Valley, Ontario. Dave grew up on his father's farm. Purple Valley road runs through Purple Valley from Lions Head to the McIvor home.
Louisa Hardman was born in Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England on 17 December 1880. Louisa immigrated to Canada in 1890 with her parents, Isaac Hardman and Mary Ann Free. Isaac probably emigrated because of the economy of Cambridgeshire.
David's brother Matthew married Laura Lambkin in Owen Sound on 16 Mar 1898. Laura was presented a bible on her wedding day. The bible was to be used for recording life events such as birth, marriage and death in the Matthew Hogg family. James and Mary Jane Hogg provided the bible. The 1901 Canadian Census shows that Dave's parents James Hogg and Mary Jane Blair Armstrong-Hogg, David Hogg and Louisa Hardman- Hogg and Louisa's parents Isaac and Mary Ann Free-Hardman on the same census sheet. James, David and Dave's brother Matthew changed their name to Hogue around the time of this census.
David's brother William John Hogg had earlier moved to British Columbia and changed his name to Hall prior to marrying Olive Alenia Tretheway on 25 July 1899 in Chilliwack, British Columbia. A curious thing in the 1901 Canadian census Will, Olive and their son are listed as guests in Olive's father James E. Tretheway's household. Olive's father owned a sawmill in Dewdney, New Westminster, British Columbia. The census shows Will as John William Hall, not William John Hall.
David was a Hogue in 1898 when he married Louisa and a Hogg in the 1901 census. Their daughter Annetta (Nettie) was a Hogg when she was born in 6 February 1899. Their daughter Mary Louisa (Louie) born on 3 May1901 was a Hogue... The Hogg's and Hardman's were farmers. The farms were in Purple Valley, Ontario according to family history which was recorded in the family bible given to Louisa Hardman by James and Mary Jane Blair Hogg on her marriage to David Hogue. David and Louisa were married on 19 July 1898 in Lions Head, Ontario at Christ's Episcopal Church. Louisa Hardman was Episcopalian and Reverend MacLeod as the pastor. The maid of honor was her sister Eleanor Hardman and the best man was Casper Holler. The Holler family farm is also shown on the 1901 census, but Casper is living elsewhere. Isaac Hardman either gave or rented the farm to David Hogg. The farms in order in the 1901 census James Hogg - William Morrison - David Hogg - Isaac Hardman - Andrew Holler
Note:
As the censuses were oral the census taker may have entered Hogg instead of Hogue without asking. Hogg was considered English/Scotts/Irish and Hogue was considered French.
The 1901 Canadian census shows the following people at the James Hogg farm.
James Hogg 67
Mary Hogg 67
Gertrude Hogg 15- It is believed that Gertrude was the daughter of Jane (Jennie) Hogg who was unwed at Gertrude's birth and Gertrude was raised by James and Mary Jane.
James and Mary Jane after the census were raising another granddaughter Maude J Hogue, born in 1900. Her mother died of Albright's disease in 1901. Maude's father Bert Lawrence did not have the means to raise his daughter
Mary Jane Hogg- McIver's children were with James and Mary Jane is also shown on the 1901 census.
Bertha McIver 18
Cleveland McIver 15
Austin McIver 12
The following was provided by Jeannie Munro (Mary Jane Hogg-McIver's great-granddaughter) Mary was Dave Hogue's sister:
Mary Jane McIver was missing in a lot of the censuses, I found the kids all over at relatives but really did not know where Mary was. She might have just ditched them or she might have been off earning a living for them while they stayed at their Grandparents Robert and Isabella MacIver in Lion's Head, their Uncle John's in McIvor Settlement or their Grandfather James Hogg's farm in McIvor Settlement. McIvor Settlement was a post office and just down the road from Lion's Head on the Bruce Peninsula. John built a great big house and had a post office, store and huge farm there. It is a bed and breakfast now and we visit often
Sometime after 1901, Dave worked on construction jobs for the Canadian railroads. Family oral history has him working for the railroad, which if he did it was for a very short time Dave was a cement contractor and traveled all over Canada for the construction work. His father-in law Isaac Hardman was also a cement contractor, doing work for the railroads. . Samuel Barnard Spragge (Annie Hardman's husband) was a cement finisher for years and he is probably the one who got Dave and Isaac into the business. I know most of Dave's jobs were for the Canadian National Railway and at least one was for the Canadian Pacific. Many times Dave would be gone for months. Dave also built his own concrete block home in Wiarton.
His son David Leslie Hogue was born 26 August 1909 and Wilfred Earl (Tip) Hogue was born on 23 May 1912. The home was built before 1909 and his sons were born in the house. David Leslie's name was later changed to Leslie David.
Post card to Louie date unknown but she was too young to write:
Dear Louie,
Am sending you this card and you must hurry and learn to write so you can write to me too
Bye from Papa
A postcard from Louisa to David- Sent to Parry Sound, Ontario dated June 4, 1907
Well Dave I think paper and ink must be kind of scarce as I don't see much of it
Ever yours,
Louise Hogue
Mary Louisa (Louie) remembered Dave leaving the house on a buckboard with the cement mixer trailing behind.
Sam Spragge's family had a hill called Sprague's hill named after his grandfather either in or near Wiarton.
Nellie Hardman and Louisa were always close. Nellie married Val Albright on 12 September 1912 and the Albright's and Hogue's relationship continued. Since Dave worked all over on concrete jobs it made no difference where he lived. Dave and family moved to Edmonton in 1914. The economy of Ontario was bad in 1913-1914. In 1914 the Canadian National Railway terminated 50,000 people and cancelled all construction jobs. This may have precipitated the move. At the time of the move Edmonton, Alberta showed some signs of hope. Shortly after the move the war brought a halt to building activity in Edmonton and major government construction jobs were cancelled.
The forming of the 49th Battalion-Alberta Regiment gave Dave an opportunity to give his family an income. Dave Hogue joined on 14 Jan 1915. He enlisted just 10 days after the 49th began recruiting. As a married man Dave had to get permission from Louisa before he could join... He lists his home as 7818 104 th St, Edmonton. In his enlistment Dave listed his trade as a cement finisher.
The 49th Alberta sailed for England on almost a month later June 4, 1915
The Albright's did not move to Alberta until after Louisa and Eleanor's father Isaac Hardman died on 14 October, 1914 in Toronto. The Albrights lived with Isaac.
Val Albright was mostly unemployed in Edmonton, Alberta His profession was a stationary engineer. Val enlisted in the army on November 17, 1915, and he lied about his age He wrote that he was born in 1881 instead of 1873.
The North Saskatchewan River flooded in the spring of 1915. The river peaked at 12 meters (approx. 40 feet) above flood stage. The Albrights were flooded out of their home and moved in with Louisa until they could move back home..
Dave died on 6 October1915 in Kent, England of stomach cancer; he died three days before the 49 th was deployed to France. Dave was buried in Shornecliff Cemetery, Kent England. Dave's father-in law died 11 months earlier and there is speculation among the family that the deaths were caused by the cement work that they did as the both died of stomach cancer.
When Dave died, Louisa had four children to raise ages 16, 14, 6, & 3. Louisa had a Canadian army pension and she sold their home and a rental home they owned in Wiarton.
Val enlisted in the army on November 17, 1915, and he lied about his age He wrote that he was born in 1881 instead of 1873.
Louisa and Nellie lived together while Val was overseas. The Hogue's had a marvelous Black Lab named Laddie. Laddie took part in almost all the family activities. He towed a wagon upon occasion with Tip in it in the summer and a sled in the winter. Shown in the picture above are Les and Laddie on a teeter-totter. It was a sad day when the family relocated to Portland, Oregon and had to leave Laddie with a family friendVal relocated to Vancouver, Washington in 1923 and worked at the Swift plant in North Portland, Oregon. One of the ironies of life is that my maternal grandfather also worked at the Swift plant. He worked in the slaughter house and I doubt he met Uncle Val. I met Uncle Val and Aunt Nelly in the late 40's, when they came to visit Aunt Louie. He had been long retired and they lived in Ocean Park, Washington where he died in 1952. Aunt Nellie died in Ocean Park in 1949
Louisa with Louie, Les and Tippy also relocated in 1923 but to the Albina district of Portland, Oregon. Ironically the Hogue's lived on Alberta Street. Wilfred Earl (Tip) Hogue was named for the two smartest kids in Wiarton, Ontario. The Albright's daughter Mary Eleanor (Tudy) was 3 years younger and when she was about three she called him Tippy and the name stuck. He preferred Tip as he hated his given names.
The Albina district was originally a railroad town. Albina became a part of Portland, along with East Portland in 1891. In the early 1920,s Albina was made up of mostly immigrant low income Russian and German families and Albina was considered a tough part of Portland. Most of Tip's friends were German and the Germans and Russians hated each other. Tip who was 5' 7' tall was walking with a friend when they encountered two big Russians who were looking for a fight. After some heated words the Russians decided to leave Tip and his friend alone.
It was in the mid 1920's that Tip started smoking and later in life he wished he never started
When the Hogue family first came to Portland Les and Tip went to Elliot Grade School where Les graduated in 1924.
Highland Grade School opened in 1926 and Tip was in the first class to graduate from there in 1927 (Highland Grade School is now Martin Luther King Grade School).
For some reason the playgrounds of schools at that time were covered with pea gravel. The tough kids from the Albina area played tackle football on these fields. One of the greatest athletes ever to come out of Oregon at this time was Bobby Grayson. Bobby was a kid form the neighborhood and he wouldn't play football on the pea gravel. All the tough kids thought he was a wimp. Johnny was a track star at Jefferson High School and later was an All American fullback at Stanford in 1934 and 1935
If you look at a picture of my grandmother Louisa you think she is real dignified, while she was really down to earth. There were water fights that were usually started by her. The water fights involved all her children and there were no holds barred. Tip loved them. My sister Sharon and I (Dave Hogue) as children remember dad (Tip) carrying on the tradition. Dad would usually start it and a few times he came into the house with the garden hose on full blast much to my mother's dismay
The Hogue family always had a piano and Tip's sister Louie played. In 1923 when Tippy was 11, she taught him to play >Rock of Ages' and nothing more was thought about it. Two years later, when Tip and his buddies came to the Hogue house, they asked him to play some music on the piano. Aunt Louie was aghast; she didn't realize that he had been playing at school for two years. Tip later gravitated to the accordion and that was his instrument of choice for the rest of his life.
Les was three years older than Tip and beat up on him all the time. Sometime in 1927 Les started a fight and Tip beat him up so bad that he never picked a fight with Tip again. Sometime around 1932 Les needed some money and Tip had money. Les had a little money and a Model T Ford (He owned it but it was the family car). He got Tip into a poker game and Les lost what money he had and the Model T. Tip said that he never spent so much money on a car in his life and that was the last Ford he ever owned. He was a Chevy man for the rest of his life.
The Hogue family supplemented Louisa's pension by picking crops when in season. Most of the fields that the family picked crops from were located in the Parkrose-Gresham area. Nellie and her children picked crops also. Tippy would go camping with a friend to pick hops as the hop fields were around the Salem –Woodburn area which was too far to commute.
Fishing also provided food for the table and Tip and Louie were excellent fishermen
Louisa died in 1932, her son Tip was the only one at home as both Louie and Les were married. Tip went to live with his sister Louie at 2218 N. Terry, across the street from his future wife Helen Plitnick
After Louisa died aunt Louie inherited the family bible. As her mother did, she recorded all Hogue family data, birthdates, marriages, etc and her daughter Marjorie Louise Davis maintained the tradition until Margie died in 1995. Dave Hogue
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1875 - 1915 (40 years) Has 4 ancestors and 5 descendants in this family tree.
1833 - 1916 (82 years)
Andrew HOGG, b. Nov 1802, Ireland
James HOGG, b. 14 Apr 1833, Ireland 
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